<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><!-- generator="wordpress/2.1.2" -->
<rss version="2.0" 
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/">
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The AT&#038;T Refurbished iPhone Deal - May Not Be As Good As You Think</title>
	<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/</link>
	<description>Confessions of a Windows guy in a Solaris world ...</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.2</generator>

	<item>
		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-5532</link>
		<author>Oz</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-5532</guid>
					<description>Interesting I bought one of those as a present. It wasnt unlocked or activated or anything. Came with an old software, but no scratches no sign of use etc. Hopefully it wont break in many years lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting I bought one of those as a present. It wasnt unlocked or activated or anything. Came with an old software, but no scratches no sign of use etc. Hopefully it wont break in many years lol</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-5574</link>
		<author>Doug</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-5574</guid>
					<description>Looks like this thread still gets a lot of visitors.  Just to let everyone know, we did eventually get our warranty extended on our 4gb refurb iPhone - all we had to do was fax in our sales reciept from AT&#038;T to Apple's fax number, and they extended the warranty.

We are AT&#038;T customers.  I've heard rumors that they don't extend the warranty if you're not on a valid AT&#038;T account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like this thread still gets a lot of visitors.  Just to let everyone know, we did eventually get our warranty extended on our 4gb refurb iPhone - all we had to do was fax in our sales reciept from AT&#038;T to Apple&#8217;s fax number, and they extended the warranty.</p>
<p>We are AT&#038;T customers.  I&#8217;ve heard rumors that they don&#8217;t extend the warranty if you&#8217;re not on a valid AT&#038;T account.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-5582</link>
		<author>steve</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-5582</guid>
					<description>we are interested used iphone please contact us tks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are interested used iphone please contact us tks</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike S.</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-6403</link>
		<author>Mike S.</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-6403</guid>
					<description>I know this post is old, but it came up in my Google search. I bought a "new" iPhone 3g today at the AT&#38;T store at 1330 Ave. of the Americas in Manhattan, only to come home and discover they sold me a refurbished phone as "new." I will take it back tomorrow, but I'm mad as hell, and want to warn people going to that store to be careful what they buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this post is old, but it came up in my Google search. I bought a &#8220;new&#8221; iPhone 3g today at the AT&amp;T store at 1330 Ave. of the Americas in Manhattan, only to come home and discover they sold me a refurbished phone as &#8220;new.&#8221; I will take it back tomorrow, but I&#8217;m mad as hell, and want to warn people going to that store to be careful what they buy.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-6421</link>
		<author>david</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-6421</guid>
					<description>Buyer beware!

I received my refurbished iPhone broken. The inner box was not taped up by AT&#38;T and the iPhone had dislodged - probably bouncing around for a week before I got it. No wonder it was broken. In order to fix the telephone, I have had to send it back to Apple for repairs (AT&#38;T would not cover it). I found this out after 2 phone calls to AT&#38;T and 3 calls to Apple. A subsequent 3rd call to AT&#38;T revealed that I could have, in fact, sent the phone back to AT&#38;T for replacement. Bullsh!t.

For me, this was not worth the $100 'savings'. I suggest that if you value your time and sanity, you should carefully consider the implications of buying a used iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buyer beware!</p>
<p>I received my refurbished iPhone broken. The inner box was not taped up by AT&amp;T and the iPhone had dislodged - probably bouncing around for a week before I got it. No wonder it was broken. In order to fix the telephone, I have had to send it back to Apple for repairs (AT&amp;T would not cover it). I found this out after 2 phone calls to AT&amp;T and 3 calls to Apple. A subsequent 3rd call to AT&amp;T revealed that I could have, in fact, sent the phone back to AT&amp;T for replacement. Bullsh!t.</p>
<p>For me, this was not worth the $100 &#8217;savings&#8217;. I suggest that if you value your time and sanity, you should carefully consider the implications of buying a used iPhone.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-6516</link>
		<author>Glenn</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-6516</guid>
					<description>I lost my second iPhone this weekend and was told by ATT&#38;T on Park Avenue and 51st in NYC that I had to have a police report in order to get a new phone--period--BEFORE they would let me buy a new phone FOR full price $400.!!!

I then spent 45 minutes on the phone with ATT&#38;T who "helped" me get to the option of adding a line to my phone, paying $10 more a month just to get the $199 deal.

Now--I'm in a loop on the ATT&#38;T site to "see" the refurbished phones, but I can't apply to actually GET THEM--I'm in a weird "log in" loop every time I try to purchase it, even though I'm already Logged IN to my account--very strange.

The customer support "in Oklahoma" tried to be helpful--but this is policy/contract from Apple to ATT&#38;T is ridiculous--I've already lost the original iPhone, and now my replacement (granted all my fault)--but I'm JUST trying to replace the device as I've done before--they stated because I wasn't upgrading, I had to purchase at FULL PRICE---so unfair and a threshold I'm seriously re-considering the purchase completely and thinking of moving to the new Blackberry Touch---after 7 years with ATT&#38;T--it's total BS.

NOT HAPPY!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost my second iPhone this weekend and was told by ATT&amp;T on Park Avenue and 51st in NYC that I had to have a police report in order to get a new phone&#8211;period&#8211;BEFORE they would let me buy a new phone FOR full price $400.!!!</p>
<p>I then spent 45 minutes on the phone with ATT&amp;T who &#8220;helped&#8221; me get to the option of adding a line to my phone, paying $10 more a month just to get the $199 deal.</p>
<p>Now&#8211;I&#8217;m in a loop on the ATT&amp;T site to &#8220;see&#8221; the refurbished phones, but I can&#8217;t apply to actually GET THEM&#8211;I&#8217;m in a weird &#8220;log in&#8221; loop every time I try to purchase it, even though I&#8217;m already Logged IN to my account&#8211;very strange.</p>
<p>The customer support &#8220;in Oklahoma&#8221; tried to be helpful&#8211;but this is policy/contract from Apple to ATT&amp;T is ridiculous&#8211;I&#8217;ve already lost the original iPhone, and now my replacement (granted all my fault)&#8211;but I&#8217;m JUST trying to replace the device as I&#8217;ve done before&#8211;they stated because I wasn&#8217;t upgrading, I had to purchase at FULL PRICE&#8212;so unfair and a threshold I&#8217;m seriously re-considering the purchase completely and thinking of moving to the new Blackberry Touch&#8212;after 7 years with ATT&amp;T&#8211;it&#8217;s total BS.</p>
<p>NOT HAPPY!!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ross G</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-7352</link>
		<author>Ross G</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-7352</guid>
					<description>How do you look to see if your Iphone is new or refurbed ?
i am thinking about going and purchasing one from the ATT store 
also  is it true that if i go to the  APple store and buy a refurbed one that i can get a full 1 year warranty on it from apple ? or can you purchase apple care plan for refurbed phones ? 

Thanks any help woudl be great 

TheSweetRossLg@AOl.Com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you look to see if your Iphone is new or refurbed ?<br />
i am thinking about going and purchasing one from the ATT store<br />
also  is it true that if i go to the  APple store and buy a refurbed one that i can get a full 1 year warranty on it from apple ? or can you purchase apple care plan for refurbed phones ? </p>
<p>Thanks any help woudl be great </p>
<p><a href="mailto:TheSweetRossLg@AOl.Com">TheSweetRossLg@AOl.Com</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Fran</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-7516</link>
		<author>Fran</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-7516</guid>
					<description>I bought a refub iphone and have had absolutly no problems, at all. I've been looking to get another refub for my son. I will never go back to any other type of cell again. I love this phone. But.. I do agree, AT&#38;T is the worst for customer service. Customer sevice is a key part of business. Apple is probably the only thing holding AT&#38;T together. I think Refurbs are a great way to save a buck, if only you can get your hands on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a refub iphone and have had absolutly no problems, at all. I&#8217;ve been looking to get another refub for my son. I will never go back to any other type of cell again. I love this phone. But.. I do agree, AT&amp;T is the worst for customer service. Customer sevice is a key part of business. Apple is probably the only thing holding AT&amp;T together. I think Refurbs are a great way to save a buck, if only you can get your hands on them.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rich V</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-7599</link>
		<author>Rich V</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-7599</guid>
					<description>I am switching over to AT&#38;T because of the BB Storm. The Storm's OS is so slow! Too many bugs! I upgraded to the beta version and it works much bettter but once you start installing programs it starts to lag! I had my phone replaced 3 times. Looking to get the Iphone. If you switch over to Verizon,expect the phones to suck! All the smrt phone touch screens at Verizon are no good. The only one that is good is the HTC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am switching over to AT&amp;T because of the BB Storm. The Storm&#8217;s OS is so slow! Too many bugs! I upgraded to the beta version and it works much bettter but once you start installing programs it starts to lag! I had my phone replaced 3 times. Looking to get the Iphone. If you switch over to Verizon,expect the phones to suck! All the smrt phone touch screens at Verizon are no good. The only one that is good is the HTC.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: David k</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-7991</link>
		<author>David k</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-7991</guid>
					<description>I read at the att web site that they load the most recent software. Is this a false hood?
I want to get an i phone snd a refurbished one seems like a good way to go but now I am wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read at the att web site that they load the most recent software. Is this a false hood?<br />
I want to get an i phone snd a refurbished one seems like a good way to go but now I am wondering.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kaela</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-8211</link>
		<author>Kaela</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-8211</guid>
					<description>oh great i just bought the thing online before i saw the website. i should have jst bought a new one. i will let ya know what i get in the mail. I have my fingers crossed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh great i just bought the thing online before i saw the website. i should have jst bought a new one. i will let ya know what i get in the mail. I have my fingers crossed.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bob W</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-9089</link>
		<author>Bob W</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-9089</guid>
					<description>Just had a chat with AT&#38;T about this.  Here is what was said in the chat about the warranty for the refurbs:

Bob: What is the warranty on the refurbs online from you?

Erin H.: The refurbished devices were returned to the manufacturer on a warranty exchange. Any problem would have been fixed and they will be in like new condition.  Should you experience problems with the device within the first 90 days of ownership, it may be returned for service or replacement.

Bob: So they do not have a 1 year warranty from any place?

Erin H.: AT&#38;T does not offer one year warranty's for refurbished iPhones, the new iPhones come with a 1 year warranty as well as the AppleCare protection plan which extends that warranty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had a chat with AT&amp;T about this.  Here is what was said in the chat about the warranty for the refurbs:</p>
<p>Bob: What is the warranty on the refurbs online from you?</p>
<p>Erin H.: The refurbished devices were returned to the manufacturer on a warranty exchange. Any problem would have been fixed and they will be in like new condition.  Should you experience problems with the device within the first 90 days of ownership, it may be returned for service or replacement.</p>
<p>Bob: So they do not have a 1 year warranty from any place?</p>
<p>Erin H.: AT&amp;T does not offer one year warranty&#8217;s for refurbished iPhones, the new iPhones come with a 1 year warranty as well as the AppleCare protection plan which extends that warranty.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: trent</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-10315</link>
		<author>trent</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-10315</guid>
					<description>hey folks,

just ordered my refurb 3G 8GB iphone from at&#38;t today and am looking forward to getting a good phone with no flaws. those who keep talking smack about the refurb iphone should relax and stop spreading false info and making potential savers paranoid. first of all, apple doesnt compromise on quality nor does it allow any company to mess around with its reputation by letting them ship out faulty and defective equipment. secondly, the reason the refurbs have more recent software on them is not because at&#38;t didn't erase it or put it back to factory settings, it's because refurb items get UPDATED to the most recent versions of software as stated on the apple refurb site. thirdly, all refurb items come with a minimum 90 day warranty in some cases exceeding that. fourth: most refurb items are return/exchange items because somebody didn't like the color/functionality/storage/phone and stuff like this and returned it. not all refurb items were used and then returned after being abused. and last but not least its APPLE ffs!! it will work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey folks,</p>
<p>just ordered my refurb 3G 8GB iphone from at&amp;t today and am looking forward to getting a good phone with no flaws. those who keep talking smack about the refurb iphone should relax and stop spreading false info and making potential savers paranoid. first of all, apple doesnt compromise on quality nor does it allow any company to mess around with its reputation by letting them ship out faulty and defective equipment. secondly, the reason the refurbs have more recent software on them is not because at&amp;t didn&#8217;t erase it or put it back to factory settings, it&#8217;s because refurb items get UPDATED to the most recent versions of software as stated on the apple refurb site. thirdly, all refurb items come with a minimum 90 day warranty in some cases exceeding that. fourth: most refurb items are return/exchange items because somebody didn&#8217;t like the color/functionality/storage/phone and stuff like this and returned it. not all refurb items were used and then returned after being abused. and last but not least its APPLE ffs!! it will work!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Riz</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-17926</link>
		<author>Riz</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-17926</guid>
					<description>hi guys

where exactly can  I buy a refurbished iphone from? Would I need to buy a plan with it, or do they sell it without a plan, like the monthly plan i mean.

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi guys</p>
<p>where exactly can  I buy a refurbished iphone from? Would I need to buy a plan with it, or do they sell it without a plan, like the monthly plan i mean.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Johar Manswab</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-20855</link>
		<author>Johar Manswab</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-20855</guid>
					<description>How can i ascertain whether i have a refurbished or new iphone 3g series</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can i ascertain whether i have a refurbished or new iphone 3g series</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-27893</link>
		<author>Jerry</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-27893</guid>
					<description>I got for my family, 4 refurbished iPhone 3GS 16GB for $49/each online at this web site:

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phones/refurb-phones.jsp

They look brand new to me just like the $199 brand new iPhone 3GS I got for myself.  I checked with the AT&#38;T store and they confirmed to me that the refurb one carries a one year warranty just like the brand new ones.  So either the rumors are false or they are problems of the past but not now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got for my family, 4 refurbished iPhone 3GS 16GB for $49/each online at this web site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phones/refurb-phones.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phones/refurb-phones.jsp</a></p>
<p>They look brand new to me just like the $199 brand new iPhone 3GS I got for myself.  I checked with the AT&amp;T store and they confirmed to me that the refurb one carries a one year warranty just like the brand new ones.  So either the rumors are false or they are problems of the past but not now.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-27894</link>
		<author>Jerry</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-27894</guid>
					<description>Riz, yeah you need to sign up for a 2 year plan with data plan just like for the new ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riz, yeah you need to sign up for a 2 year plan with data plan just like for the new ones.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sai B</title>
		<link>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-29138</link>
		<author>Sai B</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 06:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dougtoombs.com/2008/03/27/the-att-refurbished-iphone-deal-may-not-be-as-good-as-you-think/#comment-29138</guid>
					<description>I just boughr an IPHONE about 20 mins ago!
but now i am scare to read on all of this post.
Hope my phone turns out to be a good NOT abuse phone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just boughr an IPHONE about 20 mins ago!<br />
but now i am scare to read on all of this post.<br />
Hope my phone turns out to be a good NOT abuse phone!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
</channel>
</rss>
